Love….

Peace…..

I am sorry you feel that I am “lecturing” Iraqis, because my responses were for lelly.

lelly said, “if you didnt oppose Saddam or have the misfortune to be born the wrong minority, you were OK.”

Which, as you know, is completely FALSE, inaccurate, and is moral relativism.

“The misfortune of being born the wrong minority”. The “wrong minority” is 76% of Iraq either Kurd(21%) or Shia(55%)!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Iraq_demography.jpg

So as long as you were 24% of Iraqi Sunni Arabs you were “ok” in lelly’s irrational thought process!!!

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What did the babies’ say against Saddam Hussein to deserve bullets to the brain?

What did young Iraqi girls ages 10 to 14 deserve to be raped by Uday Hussein?

What did Olympic Athletes do to deserved death or torture for not performing up to Uday’s standards?

I am asking for intellectual HONESTY and context from everyone.

I am very very sorry that Iraq is very violent and that that Bush did not have a good plan for Post-Saddam security, while the new Iraqi Army and Police were being trained.

I’m sorry for that, but does that mean Saddam Hussein did not deserve to be removed.

Don’t you believe that if the 1991 Shia Uprising had been successful Iraq would have been 1,000 times worse and Genocide would have occurred then?

Security is improving, but I have asked Iraqis
“even though Iraq is very violent don’t you think it will be worse if American Soldiers leave too soon?”

Should American Soldiers pull out and let the Shia and Sunni go to all out Civil War?

The Sunni Tribal Shieks have formed an alliance with American Military and Iraqi Government.

The Sunni Tribes have turned on al-Qaeda in Anbar Province. Iraq is winning, but we have a long way to go.

http://www.mudvillegazette.com/

The video is down a little ways and titled:

“CNN: al-Qaeda on the verge of collapse in al-Anbar”

Do you think this is a good sign?

Iraq’s success will be good for the entire Middle East and the rest of the world.

I am praying for Iraq’s success and chance at a future.

he emailed me this and asked if i would please post it for him, as he cannot for whatever the reason, thanks..

lelly Says:
May 17th, 2007 at 1:57 pm

SIPRI list of Weapons Sales to Iraq.

In Saddam Hussein’s 1998 Declaration to the U.N. they listed 16 private companies as “dual-use” chemical suppliers and the vast majority of chemicals came from EUROPEAN companies.

Iraq turned “dual-use” chemicals into chemical weapons. The United States Goverment did not sell chemical weapons to Iraq and 2 private companies did sell “dual use” chemicals that could be used for Agriculture fertilizer.

Saddam Hussein chose to turn those “dual use” chemicals into Chemical Weapons on his own.

On top of that Iraq’s own U.N. Declaration states the vast majority of chemical suppliers were from European countries, not the U.S. Germany was the by far the #1 supplier of chemicals.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/01/17/iraq.chemical.suit/index.html
http://tinyurl.com/4lw6

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The supplier list, shown to CNN, is included in Iraq's 1998 weapons declaration to the United Nations, parts of which were resubmitted to weapons inspectors last month. Sources tell CNN the list is an authentic document

The Iraqi list names 56 suppliers of chemicals and equipment to process them. A majority are based in Europe.

Germany - 14 companies
Netherlands - 3 companies
Switzerland - 3 companies
France - 2 companies
United States - 2 companies
Austria - 2 companies]

Germany was by far the largest chemical supplier to Iraq.

And the top weapons suppliers to Iraq were Russia, China, and France. They sold Saddam weapons and the U.S. sold Saddam helicopters and radar equipment.

Top Weapons Suppliers to Saddam Hussein 1979 to 1988($m).

http://www.sipri.org/contents/armstrad/TIV_imp_IRQ_70-04.pdf
http://tinyurl.com/2c59fh

#1. RUSSIA 26,102
#2. CHINA 5,736
#3. FRANCE 5,111
#4. CZECHOSLOVAKIA 2,095
#5. POLAND 640
#6. BRAZIL 617
#7. EGYPT 350
#8. DENMARK 351
#9. AUSTRIA 190
#10. ROMANIA 186
#11. U.S. 75
#12. GERMANY 52

After the 1988 gassing of the Kurds the United States and British ceased all relations with Iraq, but France, Russia, China, Germany, etc all continued to sell Saddam weapons.

Top weapons suppliers to Iraq, after 1988 gassing of Kurds ($m.): 1988 to 1990

#1: RUSSIA 1,570
#2: France 363
#3: Poland 218
#4: Egypt 47
#5: Czechoslovakia 45
#6: Germany 31
#7: Brazil 25
#8: China 23
#9: Switzerland 8
#10: Spain 2

After the 1988 gassing of the Kurds Russia, France, Germany, Poland, Egypt and others continued to sell Iraq weapons.

I wonder why the top 2 countries who sold Iraq the most weapons and were owed the most money were against Diplomacy and U.N. Resolutions?

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/03/10/sprj.irq.russia.vote/index.html
http://tinyurl.com/2ehn6u

thanks again..

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AMERICA PUT HIM THERE, IN CHARGE.

Saddam Hussein
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein
http://tinyurl.com/2mcvc

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bg, What I meant when I said that you could be ok if you werent those things ,is just that. Again, I was not supporting it or arguing, merely stating a fact. End of.

and i was pointing out the implicit consequences of the stated fact, of which w/o, the fact would not exist in the first place, as you cannot have one w/o the other..

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hello Iza.. i agree, bury the past & get on with building a future!! :+:

however and albeit the US supported Saddam in the past, he garnered much more support form France, & Germany & Russia just for instance.. ie: France helped build Osirak the nuclear facitlity amongst supplying arms, etc..

btw.. we, the American public at least, didn’t know what was going on in Saddam’s hell hole before the war.. and in no small thanks to CNN et al.. and where was Amnesty International et al, not to mention the UN Oil for Blood Scandal.. apparently corruption was the status quo before GWB came down the pike..

CNN’s Iraqi Cover-Up
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/critiques/CNNs_Iraqi_Cover-Up.asp
http://tinyurl.com/k6b9m

excerpt:

[In a shocking New York Times opinion piece, CNN's chief news executive Eason Jordan has admitted that for the past decade the network has systematically covered up stories of Iraqi atrocities. Reports of murder, torture, and planned assassinations were suppressed in order to maintain CNN's Baghdad bureau.]

go figure..

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